First Impressions of the Forty Below Light Energy TR Overboots
This article was originally published at ADVENTUREinPROGRESS. It has been moved to this site so that all of my minimalist footwear articles exist in one place.
The pursuit for the ultimate minimalist winter footwear continues but I think I am getting closer. The preceding stages have been as follows:
- Russell Moccasin Russell Tracker boots: I bought these with the hopes of making them my general purpose winter boots. They were made with waterproof leather, they had flat soles, and I had them sized to accommodate thicker socks. They ended-up being not as waterproof as I needed, stiffer than I wanted, and not particularly warm, even with thick socks. I have found that in cold weather, having insulation under the soles of your feet is very important for keeping them warm.
- Quoddy Trail sheepskin lined Grizzly Boots in combination with NEOS Adventurer overboots: The idea behind this combination was to try to solve some of the the problems I had experienced with the Russell Moccasins. The sheepskin lining would keep my feet warm, and the overboots would keep them dry. The other benefit would be that I could wear other footwear under the overboots if I didn't need the warmth of the sheepskin. The moccasins were very warm and flexible, and the overboots were definitely waterproof. The system was not without problems however. The overboots were not breathable and thus had a tendency to get hot and sweaty during physical activity. The overboots were also very bulky/baggy, making them feel sloppy and rather large for fitting in crampons or snowshoe bindings. The moccasins still had a tendency to get wet (from sweat, etc.) and took a very long time to dry due to their leather construction.
I am now in the third iteration of my winter minimalist footwear search, and I think I am getting closer. The current system that I am trying is based on research and recommendations from a series of articles at BackpackingLight. I am taking the ideas from those articles and am slowly adapting them for use with minimalist footwear. The approach involves treating footwear as a layered system (not unlike we are used to doing with clothing) for use in a wide range of weather conditions. The various components of this system and how they work together is outside the scope of this article, but I plan on writing more about it once I have completed more in-depth testing.
Note: For the record, I just wanted to say that I purchased all of the products described above with my own money, none were given to me as samples for review. Yes, it gets expensive, but I have managed to sell most of the failed experiments to recoup some of the money. The same goes for the new system I am testing (with the exception of the Kuuvas). I thought it was important to say this so that you know that this is genuine, that there are no perks/incentives for me in talking about these products.

One of the components of this system is a light weight overboot made by Forty Below: The Light Energy TR Overboots. The TR stands for Trail Runner, which means that these overboots were designed to go over light-weight running shoes. They are described as having the following key features:
- Designed to help insulate trail running shoes and light hiking boots for a variety of applications.
- Superlight and Supercompact!
- Low profile, and dynamic fit design.
- Stretchy nylon covered neoprene foam insulation on sides of foot.
- Upper gaiter has stretchy side panels to allow for wide range of clothing and temperature range.
- Coated rear calf area to reduce snow buildup and melt through.
- Removable closed cell foam bottom insert to help reduce conductive heat loss.
- Light and flexible Rubber Dot patterned sole fabric.
- Easy to put on in the cold.
An added bonus is that when you purchase a pair of these, they send you several different thicknesses of foam inserts that you can stick inside to accommodate various shoe sizes. Because the lower section is made with stretchy neoprene they fit snugly over your footwear, and because the gaiters are breathable they don't get nearly as hot and sweaty as the NEOS did. The soles are thin, flexible, and have no heel (a huge bonus as far as I am concerned). One downside is that the outsole is not really designed for heavy use on it's own (it is not highly abrasion resistant like a normal boot), it is designed to be used in snowshoes or crampons. If you want to be able to use them on their own, then they need to be paired with a pair of external soles/cleats like STABILiciers.

Pictured here with my STABILicers Sport (not recommended, get the Originals instead)
I have only had the opportunity to take them out on two occasions so far, so I don't have much to report as of yet. At this point I am very pleased with the results and can't wait to do more testing. Tomorrow we are heading out do do some winter hiking and I am planning on trying them out with my Feelmax Kuuvas. Stay tuned for future posts on this topic!
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Neos + Crampons?
Damien,
Funny how your blog keeps coming up in Google searches. I was looking for information on NEOS + Crampon and got here. First I want to say thanks for the overboots. So far I've used them for several days of snowplay and shoveling while visiting family in the Midwest, plus snowshoeing twice here in California. I'm looking to get some crampons for non-technical peak bagging and wonder if something like the BD Contact would work with the Neos Adventurer and trail runners?
PS it always takes about five tries to make the captcha work.
Jim
Its good to hear that Google
Its good to hear that Google likes my content ;-) I am also Glad to hear that the overboots are working for you. Yes the BD Contact crampons will work fine, that is what I have and I used them with those overboots without any issues.
Sorry to hear about the captcha, I have been having lots of problems with spam lately, so I have to be careful with what I do. Maybe I can find a different captcha that is easier for the users (but not too easy!). Thanks for letting me know.
Damien Tougas
Founder/Editor-in-Chief
http://www.toesalad.com
Contact Crampons
I got the crampons, but unfortunately didn't get a chance to try them with the Neos boots. The new 2010 stainless steel Black Diamond Contact crampon was just a tiny bit too short to fit the size L Neos. I might have made it fit, but seemed like going solo, up an unfamiliar trail, into the night, my first time wearing crampons in 25 years- isn't the time to try something iffy like galoshes.
I had a great hike and was so glad to have the crampons. The route climbs 2000 feet in under 2 miles so it's pretty steep, on a rather steep sidehill. The crampons were easy to put on, didn't loosen, and stuck like glue.
I've ordered the optional super-flexible center bars in "long" which should allow testing with the NEOS and trail runners.
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Those stainless crampons look
Those stainless crampons look really nice... wish they had those when I got mine. We went for a good hike this weekend too that required the use of crampons. It was a lot of fun, and a little scary at one point for two of the kids, but nothing dangerous, just a little beyond their comfort zone.
Good to see that you are getting out in the winter, it can be a lot of fun with the right gear.
Damien Tougas
Founder/Editor-in-Chief
http://www.toesalad.com
Kahtoola MICROspikes
If you're having problems with the Stabilicers, I know a lot of people who backpack in snow and ice regularly who all swear by Kahtoola MICROspikes. I look forward to hearing more about the Kuuva/Overboots combo in the future :) Thanks.
I looked at the MICROspikes
I looked at the MICROspikes and thought they looked good from a grip standpoint, but don't provide any abrasion resistance to the soles of the overboots. Since the Light Energy overboots don't have much for abrasion resistance on the bottom, I needed something with more of a sole attached.
Damien Tougas
Founder/Editor-in-Chief
http://www.toesalad.com
Hi, I'm really interested in
Hi,
I'm really interested in minimalist footwear and I'm now in the market for a new pair of hiking/snow shoes. I figured that on my way to more minimalist footwear I would keep using what I had until it wore out and then think about getting more minimalist stuff. Unfortunately, I don't have the money, or really the time, to play around with trying different combinations of things. I was wondering what kinds of winter footwear you have our kids use. I would imagine that it would be something a little more mainstream since they don't make all that much minimalist footwear in kids' sizes. I'm looking for something that I can get quickly, will work for hiking and the snow and is more minimalist than my old hiking boots. I know these are compromises, but I guess it's a step in the right direction anyway.
Thanks for any help you might be able to offer,
Kelly
Hello Kelly, welcome to the
Hello Kelly, welcome to the blog, thanks for commenting. I would love to help you out in this regard. I have a few questions first:
- You mention kids footwear. Is that because you are a kid and you are looking for something for yourself, or is it because you have kids and are looking to outfit them?
- How cold will the temperatures be where you will need to be using these?
- How long will you typically be spending in the outdoors in one long segment? An hour, multiple hours, days?
- How deep will the snow be?
- Are you a typically cold person, do you get cold feet really easily?
Damien Tougas
Founder/Editor-in-Chief
http://www.toesalad.com
Hi Damien, I was asking about
Hi Damien,
I was asking about your kids because I figured that what you could find for them would be more along the lines of what I'm looking to buy for myself in an adult size. I live in NJ so sometimes we have a little snow and sometimes we have a lot of snow. I will sometimes be hiking in weather as cold as the teens, but I doubt I'd go out in weather colder than that. Mostly, the winter weather I hike in is the 20's or 30's. I do some day hiking but I also do some overnight backpacking trips that are two or three days long. I guess what I'm looking for is something that i can use for it all so that I don't have to buy multiple pairs of shoes. I don't know if that's possible to do. I did all of that in my old pair of Merrel hiking boots so I was hoping to replace one pair of shoes with one pair of shoes. I tend to be pretty cold when I start doing stuff outside, but I warm up pretty quickly. For instance, I might wear a long sleeved shirt, a fleece sweater and a down jacket in the beginning of a day hike and then take off one or two layers by the end of it.
Thanks for your quick response!
Hello Kelly, I think that the
Hello Kelly,
I think that the best thing for you would be the following combination (at minimum):
- Light-weight trail runners (http://inov-8.com, I like the Flyroc 310)
- Gore-tex socks
- Short, waterproof breathable gaiters (http://bit.ly/djYCHH)
- Thick wool boot/mountaineering socks (http://www.darntough.com)
- Thin polyester or wool liner socks
Then if you found that you needed additional warmth, you could add the following:
- Vapor barrier socks (http://bit.ly/aihItF)
- Thermal insoles (http://bit.ly/KS5Ny)
To take this system to even colder temperatures, you could add:
- Overboots (like those in this review)
Although light weight trail runners are not as minimalist as I would like, that is about the best there is going right now. Make sure that the shoes are sized big enough such that you can wear all the socks (liner, wool, and gore-tex) at the same time without being too tight.
The great thing is that this is a system that you can scale depending on the weather conditions. Mix/match components to suit the needs of your outing. A system such as this can be used in Spring/Winter/Fall for most of what you are doing. The other bonus is that you can start with the basics, then add the rest as you find that you need it or can afford it.
A great resource for this type of info can be found in a three part series of articles on BackpackingLight (subscription required):
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/lightweight_foo...
Damien Tougas
Founder/Editor-in-Chief
http://www.toesalad.com
Wow, that is so helpful!
Wow, that is so helpful! Thanks so much! That was a much more in-depth answer than I was expecting. I'm going to go look at all of those links now. Also, just as an aside, I really like your guys' blog. It's interesting and it also has helpful and inspiring information in it.
Thanks for taking the time to
Thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I feel strongly about it and love learning more on this topic. If possible, as you gain expertise, would you mind updating your blog with more information? It is extremely helpful for me.
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40 Below Overboots
Joel at 40 Below mentioned that he'd been working on these overboots, but it's cool to see them. Since I made the transition to trail runners at the end of last winter (they work great with snowshoes), it'd be good to get a pair of these to use this winter with crampons. I recently saw a pair that I believe are flexible enough for trail runners made by Kahtoola. Thx for the reminder.
It's my understanding that
It's my understanding that they now have a shortie version of these as well. Similar design, but without the high gaiter. They don't have them on the website yet, but you can order them if you ask them directly.
Damien Tougas
Founder/Editor-in-Chief
http://www.toesalad.com
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