Mid-Term Report of the Feelmax Kuuva

This article was originally published at ADVENTUREinPROGRESS. It has been moved to this site so that all of my minimalist footwear articles exist in one place.

It has been almost 2 months since I first received my Feelmax Kuuvas. Now that the weather has cooled down a little, I have had some opportunities to test them in the conditions for which they were designed.

The first outing that I took them on was our camping trip to Common Ground Fair. Our days were spent at the fairgrounds, and our evenings were spent camped out in a farmer's field. During the four days we were there, the weather varied from a warm 65 F (18 C) to a frosty 32 F (0 C) to a wet/rainy 50 F (10 C). On the warmest day I wore my Niesas (my current favorite all-around shoe) and for the remainder of the days I wore the Kuuvas. Activity over the course of the weekend consisted primarily of walking (and eating) as we explored the expansive fair grounds.

The second outing that I took the Kuuvas on was much more of a rigorous test: I took them on a hike up Mount Katahdin, Maine's highest peak. The weather for this day was cold, cloudy, foggy, windy, drizzly, and at some points rainy. The temperatures started at around 42 F (5 C) and hovered in the 45 - 50 F (7 - 10 C) range for most of the day. The terrain was quite harsh, consisting mostly of big rough, wet rocks, gravel, and a little sand. The day was long, and I spent most of it wearing a pack while scrambling over all kinds of natural obstacles. These are most likely the types of conditions for which the Kuuvas were designed.

The following is a quick video of me taken by John Sifferman showing what the conditions were like:

My current favorite sock combination for these types of conditions is a pair of thin Injinji NuBamboo liner toe-socks under a pair of regular wool socks. For the Common Ground Fair, the wool socks were Dahlgren hiking socks, and for the hike up Katahdin, they were a pair of Bridgedale knee-high snowboarding socks. I generally don't like wearing thick toe-socks in colder weather because I like my toes to be as close as possible to each other for warmth. I do like to wear a thin toe-sock liner however to help wick perspiration and prevent blisters due to toes rubbing together.

So, how did the Kuuvas perform? In a nutshell, they performed very well. When first putting them on (after having worn Niesas/FiveFingers on a regular basis over the course of the summer) the Kuuvas feel a little stiff and restricting. Most notably is the extra stiffness around the ankle and additional rigidity due to beefier soles. Unlike the Niesas, which have a sewn-on fabric sole, the Kuuvas have something that can be best described as a rubber bumper that goes around the perimeter of the sole. This bumper adds water-proofness and significant abrasion resistance not found in the Niesas (which have a stitched seam around the perimeter) but adds to the rigidity of the sole. The good news about all of this is that after a short period of time I don't really notice them on my feet at all. If a shoe goes unnoticed on the feet after a period of time, then they are probably going pretty good. If - after wearing them for a while - I can't wait to take them off, then that is not the shoe for me.

While at Common Ground Fair, my feet stayed warm and dry during the cold evenings and cool, damp, dewy mornings. While hiking Mount Katahdin, my feet stayed dry until the last hour or so of the day, when they started to get damp. Even then, I was not certain whether the dampness was due to perspiration or soaking from the outside. Either way, I consider the performance to be excellent considering the level of activity and weather conditions encountered. These boots are definitely both water resistant and breathable as advertised.

While hiking on the rocks, the boots performed very well. The rubber sole grips well and allows the foot to mold sufficiently to the terrain to provide good stability. They are not, for obvious reasons, as flexible as FiveFingers and thus became a little more slippery as the rocks got wetter. This is the price I suppose that one has to pay to have warmer/dryer feet. The fabric used for the uppers (an imitation leather product called Clarino) is very tough, stands-up well to abrasion, and provides enough breathability that my feet seem to remain dry while being active. Overall I have found the construction to be very durable, with one caveat that I will discuss below.

After I returned home from our Katahdin trip, I closely inspected the soles to see how they were wearing. I noticed two places where the rubber sheeting was becoming un-bonded from the bottom of the boot. These can be seen in the photographs below. These issues should be relatively easy to fix with a little Shoe Goo, but is something that people should be aware of if using these in harsh rocky environments. Perhaps this is a manufacturing defect in the boots I received, or I am using them in terrain that is more rugged than what they were designed for. Either way, I will be communicating with Feelmax to see what there thoughts are on the matter.

In summary, I am very impressed with the Kuuva. I feel that they fill a niche that is largely un-represented by manufacturers of minimal footwear. While most companies are creating designes for warm, dry climates, Feelmax is working towards tackling weather conditions that are less than ideal. I applaud them for that because many of us don't have the luxury of being barefoot all year round! I would highly recommend the Kuuva as a spring/fall weather boot, provided you are aware of the issues I have noticed with the sole. If you typically don't find yourself in a rugged environment, then you most likely won't experience any issues at all. If you are looking for something that can take you backpacking in rocky, rough terrain, then you may need to watch the soles. As I learn more on this issue, I will update this review.

If you have questions, or want me to expand on anything, please let me know!

Update Oct 25 2009: I have since spoken with Feelmax regarding the sole de-lamination issues I encountered and they said that the problem has been identified and fixed in the current production version.


Additional Information

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Comments

John Sifferman's picture

Great review, Damien. I'm

Great review, Damien. I'm glad some of that footage turned out well!

Matti Rintala's picture

Thanks, Damien

I'm considering Kuuvas myself having used earlier Feelmax Panka model for a couple of years (I live in Finland).

What is the highest temperature where you think Kuuvas would still be comfortable? My main use for Kuuvas would be in Finnish forests, so extra water resistance would be welcome (main problem with my current lighter Pankas and bad durability because they are older models).

Also, how much do Kuuvas weight?

Matti

damien's picture

Highest Temperature?

Good question, I am not exactly sure what the highest temperature would be. I guess it would depend on what you are doing when you are wearing them, and what kind of socks you are wearing underneath. Wool socks work great at regulating temperature in both warm and cold weather, so to get the most out of these I would recommend paring them with wool. Wear thin wool socks in warmer weather and thicker ones in cooler weather. I have worn them in 50 F (10 C) and found them alright, but I also find the Niesa's comfortable at that temperature.

One boot in a size 43 (US 9) weighs 280g (9.75 oz) which is really light! Lighter than many Inov-8 shoes.

Zataod's picture

I've been eagerly looking

I've been eagerly looking forward to a minimalist shoe that can handle Winter conditions. Thanks for your review.

damien's picture

Me too

I have been looking too, they definitely are hard to come by. Up until this point, most of the options I have tried are either really good at absorbing water (i.e. leather) or are completely un-breathable, turning my footwear into a sauna. Finding something that is water resistant, quick drying, and breathable is exciting to me.

Anonymous's picture

Kuuva

Ive been trail running once & hiking through the woods comfortably in a pair of kuuvas with temperatures up to 80F (26 C) over the past couple of weeks. (12 miles traveled total) So far sweat is not an issue.
After an hour of running or four hours of constant walking, I can notice my feet do get a little wet from sweat. (I did most of this without socks.)

However if you take off the boots on breaks, the boots & your feet dry out quickly.

My only doubts are when the temperature exceeds 90-95 F (32-35c). I feel the boots might be too hot then. Will find out for sure next summer.

So far the boots have done a great job of keeping my feet dry when occasionally stepping in a puddle or stream. plus protecting my feet & ankles from thorn briars.

The soles are highly thorn resistent, but not thorn proof. Ive only had one puncture so far. While the thorn did injure my foot, it was only minor. The soles did a good job at preventing a full penetration.

Even though the boots are obviously made to fit people with wide feet, they snug up real nice to an average width foot.

The only complaint is that they are really stiff right out of the box. It took several hours of walking to break them in before I was able to get a proper fit so to allow running.

Once broken in, the boots snug up very well at the front pad of your foot behind your toes. This allows your toes to spread out wide, just like running barefoot.
Most other shoes cramp your toes together.

If you are into barefoot running and want a boot to protect your feet & ankles from thorns & branches while hitting the forest trails, this boot will do the job.

Finally now that the boots are broken in, ill be able to run more in them through the winter and spring. Time will tell how they hold up.

So far though, the initial impressions are wonderful. They seem to be a well made boot, which look to be ideal for autumn, winter & spring hiking or running.

damien's picture

Great summary

Thanks for that very detailed summary, it's good to read about other people's experiences so that we can get a full picture of how these boots will work.

moises's picture

Kuuva sizing

Hi Damien,

I have found your reviews to be quite helpful and thorough.

I have been wearing the Niesas daily for a couple of weeks now. My big concern is having something for rainy days when there are lots of puddles in the city. And, also, for snow in the winter. So, I am planning to buy Kuuvas (and Kuusaas, too, but not for foul weather).

I understand that you were wearing thick socks with the Kuuvas. But, if you were to line up the Niesas and the Kuuvas (toe-to-toe, so to speak), are they sized the same? That is, if you were to wear the same socks (or go barefoot) in both of them, would they fit the same?

By the way, the Niesas have a foam insole. I removed it. Now I get a lot more tactile sensation and, additionally, I feel the change in temperature much more drastically. Once I removed the insole, I exposed a hard, sharp seam inside the shoe. I bought some gum-back shoe pads (the kind they put under the tongue, at a shoe store) and cut a strip to cover the the painful seam. That solved my problem. I will have to figure out whether or not I want to remove the insoles from my Kuuvas.

I started this barefoot shoe thing a couple of months ago with Minnetonka moccasins. Your reports have been a major source for me. Keep up the good work, and thanks.

moises

damien's picture

Kuuva Sizing

I have found the Kuuvas to be similarly sized to the Niesa. The Kuuvas may be a little bigger, but not much. I am almost always wearing socks in my shoes, so generally I buy them to be sized that way. If you plan on wearing much thicker socks in your Kuuvas, I would recommend getting them a size bigger just to be on the safe side. As it is, I can't wear as thick a socks as I would like in my Kuuvas and would have preferred to get a size bigger for winter use.

I think that you will find the insoles in the Kuuvas will provide you with insulation to keep your feet warmer. I have found that my feet lose the most amount of heat through the soles due to the cold ground. In fact, I am considering buying even warmer soles for when the weather gets really cold. I have resigned myself to the fact that in winter time, insulation under the feet is more important than ground feel.

moises's picture

Damien, Very helpful, as

Damien,

Very helpful, as always. Thanks. I am ordering Kuusaas and Kuuvas today. So far, I've been quite pleased with my Niesas.

damien's picture

Let me know

Moises, I would be very interested in hearing what you think of them when you get them. Also, I am interested in hearing what you think about the Kuusaas, I haven't tried these ones yet.

moises's picture

Kuusaas

Hi Damien,

This is in response to your update about the Kuusaas. I have worn them for two days and they have already become my favorites. If I could, I'd trade in my Niesas for another pair of Kuusaas. Don't get me wrong. Until I tried the Kuusaas, the Niesas were my favorite minimalist footwear. I bought the Niesas initially based on the reviews I read by you and others. Subsequent to purchasing the Niesas, I learned that, at least in the US, the Kuusas have the same incredible soles that the Niesas have. What a testament to the wonders of human technology. These soles are incredibly thin, incredibly durable, and incredibly flexible.

Why do I rate the Kuusaas above the Niesas? The Niesas are quite bulky-feeling. They are taller shoes and they have a lot of Nubuck leather and padding around the ankle.

The Kuusaas, in contrast, are low-cut. They are a lot like what are traditionally sold as moccasins here in the US. The Kuusaas have some elastic over the top of the foot, which felt comfortable but not binding. The Kuusaas also have a kind of drawstring--comparable to the leather thong that moccasins typically have. I do not use the drawstring, since I find the built-in elastic sufficient.

I still plan on alternating days wearing my Niesas and Kuusaas. If there were very cold days and I was worried about snow overtopping my Kuusaas, without it being so deep that I needed my Kuuvas, I'd be happy to wear my Niesas. But for normal, everyday wear, my Kuusaas have beat out the Niesas.

By the way, I did the same thing with the Kuusaas that I did with the Niesas. They both come with foam insoles. I ripped them out. I'll have to change the name from Feelmax to Feeluebermax.

damien's picture

Thanks for the update

Thanks for the update, they sound like very nice shoes. It is hard to believe that there would be a shoe less bulky than the Niesa, I found they were so light as it was. You have piqued my interest in the Kuusa, I may have to try that one out at some point in the future.

Quantized Feet's picture

Kuuva Sizing

Your review has been instrumental in me ordering a pair. I've already asked about the waterproofness of these boots, it seems you can't stand in a deep puddle of water and stay dry like you would with Gore-tex. But water resistance is better than Vibram Five Fingers, which is why I wanted to try.

I got one size (EU40) bigger than normal to wear with warm waterproof socks, sealskinz socks are very thick, but I have to wear 2 thick socks with the insoles for my feet to fit. I'll need to return back to my normal size (EU39). May I ask how much the Kuuvas stretch bigger with use?

damien's picture

Stretch

It's tough for me to say how much they stretch. Mine definitely feel roomier now than when I first tried them on, but I am not sure how much of that to attribute to stretch or just softening-up.

When I got mine, I would have liked a size slightly larger so that I could wear waterproof socks in them comfortably. Right now with a pair of mid-weight wool socks and gore-tex socks, they are a little too tight or my liking. With just the wool socks, they fit me perfectly.

EPB's picture

More on sizing

Thanks for this and your other great reviews. I've been a barefooter/minimalist for several years, and I really want to try Feelmax. I tried on a pair of Kuuvas (M41). They feel great except that the length and forefoot width feel a tad small. On my left (larger) foot, the toe is hitting against the end -- it's enough to bother me. But according to the Feelmax size chart, my left foot is about 10.2" which does convert to a size 41. I'm concerned that my foot will swim in the size 42 because I have a narrow heel and a low-volume foot, but I'm hoping that you can advise me. I wear a size 42 Vivobarefoot*, a size 8.5 Earth shoe. a size 9.5 Nike Katana Racer (although more often a size 9 in running shoes), and a W41 VFF KSO (the store had that size, and it fit me wonderfully).  While the Kuuva 41s seem too small, I am concerned because the size chart indicates that I should be a 41, and I have a narrow heel and a low volume foot. What would you advise?

Also, do you think that I might have better luck sizing into a Niesa, and if so which size? Thanks!

* I'm not as in love with the Vivos as others are. They pinch me a little at the ankle, they are a bit too heavy, the outsole is too hard, and the heel outsole's width, to me, interfers with the barefoot feel. (I'm already stretching boundaries by wearing these to work. The Five Fingers, which I vastly prefer, are out of the question, and aren't good in the colder weather any way.)

moises's picture

EPB, I am not posing as

EPB,

I am not posing as expert, by any means, since I have only 2 months' experience in this minimalist footwear approach, and you have a few years'. But I'll share with you some of my thoughts, nonetheless.

One of the first things that I changed when I went to minimalist footwear was the belief that I had to have extra space in the front of the shoe for my toes. I started off minimalizing with moccasins. My approach was to get them to fit more like socks, than like shoes. The stiffness and rigidity of shoes does require that there be some wiggle room around the toes, but the minimalist foowares do not.

Now, the Kuuvas might not be so minimalist, so maybe there will be a greater need for wiggle room in them. I should find out real soon.

I live in New York City and I went to the Terra Plan retail store last weekend. When I got there, I was very disapointed with the Vivo Barefoots that I saw. I agree with your assessment: they had far too much sole for my minimalist tastes. (Plus they really are pricey. I'd be happy to pay it, if it was something that I really wanted. But it wasn't.)

I can get away with the Niesas at my job without a problem. I'll also be able to wear the Kuusaas and Kuuvas there as well. If the Feelmax products are not appropriate for you job, then I guess you have few alternatives besides the Vivos.

Good luck!

EPB's picture

Thanks for your response! I

Thanks for your response! I don't disagree with your point about the need for added room, but the Kuuvas in size 41 felt too tight in the forefoot, and I've learned that such a problem rarely resolves itself. My left foot felt cramped enough that it was distracting and not a barefoot feel (not painful or horribly cramped, but not a relaxed BF feel). They otherwise fit fine, so I'm skeptical that the 42s will work, which is very disappointing because I really want to be able to use the Feelmax (and would particularly like to try the Niesas for some colder weather running; I usually use the Five Fingers).

Pardon me if you answered this elsewhere (I can only see your response now), but is there a chance that the Niesas in size 41 will fit better (if they are more roomy or foregiving in the forefoot; even an extra 1/8" might work) or that they run a little smaller than the Kuuvas so the 42s would work for me.

Wow, from all your camping, I figured that you lived out in the sticks. I grew up outside of NYC, and now live in Chicago.

(I'm hoping that I like the Vivobarefoot Aquas more as they mold more to my foot. I took out the insole and adjusted the lacing. They aren't bad. I'm just not in love with them like I am with the VFFs, for example.)

damien's picture

I think you are getting us mixed-up

That previous comment was from moises, not me. I am assuming that when you were referring to camping you were talking about me, and we live in Maine, not NYC.

Anyways, with regard to the Kuuvas... I wear a 9.5 in Earth shoes and New Balance, and a 43 in Feelmax (both the Niesa and the Kuuva). The Kuuva will stretch/loosen a little bit (that is what I have found for me anyways), but if you are finding it too uncomfortable, then I might be careful about assuming it will work itself out. I do remember thinking that the Kuuvas were a little snug/stiff when I first put them on, but I don't notice that anymore, perhaps I am used to it, or they have gotten more flexible and molded to my feet. One thing to consider is that if you plan on using the Kuuva for cold/wet weather, you can go to a larger size and then adjust the fit using thicker socks. This would have a nice side-effect of making them warmer too. Because the Kuuvas are laced, you can also adjust the volume of the shoe by lacing them tighter or looser.

Being on the edge of a size like you are is such a tough decision when selecting the right size. I have found that both the Niesa and Kuuva fit me equally well in the same size. I am not sure if anything I have said has been of much help for you! If there is anything else I can answer, let me know.

EPB's picture

You are correct that I got

You are correct that I got confused about who was responding. Sorry and thanks. Looks like I may be in that unfortunate in between sizes netherworld. I'll exchange the 41s for the 42s, but I'm not too hopeful. My guess is that the length at least on the left foot will be ok, but the shoe otherwise will be too baggy in the upper. (Sounds like you go down a half U.S. size from the Earth shoes. That would put me in the 41s.) Yes, thicker socks my help, but then you start working away from a minimalist feel and a middle temp. boot. I have a pair of Vivo Barefoot Karibas on standby, but those to me feel too much like . . . boots. (I wear big old Uggs when it gets really cold. When it's 15 degrees in Chicago, I'm willing to sacrifice a barefoot feel for warmth, though I do like wearing the Uggs w/o socks.) Thanks again.

damien's picture

Let me know how it works out

Maybe shoe companies need to figure out how to sell different sized shoes for each foot. Then you could get a 41 for your right foot and 42 on your left foot ;-) If you decide to go with the 42 in the Kuuva, let me know after you have tried them on. I would be very interested in knowing how the fit works out for you.

Also, I have found that toe-socks take up a little more volume in the forefoot than regular socks due to the extra fabric. Maybe they would help you fill-out the volume a little?

EPB's picture

Hey there. The 42s fit much

Hey there. The 42s fit much better for me. The length on the right foot is a little long, but the left seems just right. Generally, I find these boots too narrow in the forefoot, which impedes the barefoot feel. Too bad, because otherwise they seem great. I sure hope that Feelmax leaves enough room in the Osmas for the forefoot to spread while running.

damien's picture

Good to hear the 42s fit

Good to hear the 42s fit better. When I first put my Kuuvas on, I also felt that my forefoot was slightly constrained. Not too much to be uncomfortable, but just enough to notice it. Kind of the same way I felt about having the additional ankle stiffness. For whatever reason, I don't feel that any more. Perhaps they have stretched a little, or they have softened with use, I am not sure, but they feet great around my feet and my ankle now.

EPB's picture

Thanks for that info. I've

Thanks for that info. I've been on the fence about returning them. I feel my pinky toes constrained in the forefoot. If they stretch a little, I'd have room (not the perfect about, but probably enough). The Vivo Karibas have grown on me, although I see them more for work on cold days and the Feelmaxes more for kicking around outside. It's a shame that Feelmax doesn't make the forefoot width (really the soles) wide enough so the forefoot and toes can operate naturally. If they did that, it would be a great hiking boot. If they stretch and mold to the foot, they may be great. If the don't, it will be $120 out the window for me.

damien's picture

I hope for your sake that it

I hope for your sake that it isn't $120 out the window!

One would think that with all of the technology we have, a company would be able to design shoes exactly to the specifications of the buyers feet. Computers should be able to do that! I think that is a largely uncharted frontier that some enterprising company should pursue.

damien's picture

One other thought

You could also consider taking the insole out of the size 41. That would might add the extra volume you need. The only downside would be that you lose a little insulation under the feet, but you would gain additional ground feel.

Greg's picture

Sizing

Hi Damien,

I just found your site and am quite excited - I started hiking and trail running barefoot this summer but have been bummed that I needed shoes now that it's getting a bit too chilly for barefoot. I didn't know about Kuuvas or Feelmax until just this evening, and your reviews are great!!

Anyway... I see you normally wear a 9.5 and went with the 43 Feelmax. I normally wear a 10.5 and was thinking of going with a 44. But now I think maybe a 45. Do you have any input on that? I think I'd probably wear a single pair of light or med. weight socks in a pair of Kuuvas - but it'd be nice to have the option of going without socks too. I'm sure I wouldn't wear any socks in a pair of Niesas.

Again, great blog!! Keep up the good work!

damien's picture

Hello Greg, welcome! Thanks

Hello Greg, welcome! Thanks for the kind words!

My recommendation is to use the Feelmax sizing chart on their website. Measure the length of both of your feet, take the longest one, and match it up with the appropriate size. That is how I did it, and it has worked well for me.

Quantized Feet's picture

Sole defects

I got a pair of UK 6 (EU 39) Kuuvas. I do like them for their lightness, flexibility, water resistance and surprising ability to grip on surfaces (with the exeption of wet mall floors, smooth ice and deep mud). Running in them feels very comfortable.

I'm not sure if my foot shape matches, my big toe sometimes feels jammed at the end of the boot. It seems to depend on how I tie my boots, tighter seems better. And I've had same problem as Damien with the sole edge becoming unstuck like in the last photo, but in the arch side of the foot. This was only after a week of use.

They are a good pair of boots but I'm disappointed with the defect, and Feelmax don't have any more replacements in stock.

damien's picture

Thanks for the update. I hope

Thanks for the update. I hope that they fix that sole problem soon, I am sorry to hear that has happened to you as well. I am still trying to find a good glue for making the repair. The last one I tried (Shoe Goo) didn't stick, I think I will try an epoxy next and see how that works.

Quantized Feet's picture

I'll be returning them for

I'll be returning them for refund and wait for next year's model, which should have the sole problem sorted. Unless Vibram comes up with a waterproof Five Fingers! I'm interested to hear how the flexible epoxy resin works, I may consider it for my aging Five Fingers.

Joseph's picture

Fit for large/wide feet?

I've been looking at a pair of Kuuva's for light hiking/cold weather shoes for a while, but haven't found any solid info on how they fit larger feet. I wear a size 12EE shoe and have what I guess are high volume feet, but the size chart puts me in a 44, just one size larger than you. Should I order a size or two up, and if so how much higher, or are these shoes just not going to work for me? My VFF KSO's are size 43 if that helps at all.

damien's picture

I typically wear a 9.5.

I typically wear a 9.5. Measuring my foot, it is 26 cm long. According to their size chart, that would put me at a 41, but I have a 43 and I wouldn't want it any smaller. In KSOs I wear a 42, which is slightly on the big size, but perfect with socks on. In terms of width, I tend to have problems with narrower shoes (I like 2E or 4E depending on the shoe) but the Kuuvas are fine for me. I think if you get the length right, the width should be OK for you. Does that help?

Joseph's picture

Thanks for the info!

I'm still waiting to hear back from Feelmax (I sent them a similar email), but it sounds like I probably need the 46's. Hopefully extremeoutfitters.us has a pretty good return policy if I need a different size. I've been thinking about the durability issue, and if I start having problems with the sole I'll get some of the 4mm Vibram Cherry sole material that Barefoot Ted is making Huaraches out of and use a flexible epoxy to laminate it to the sole, might be a workable solution for yours as well. Thanks for the help.

damien's picture

I actually have a huge chunk

I actually have a huge chunk of the cherry sole material that I bought from the manufacturer. I have way more than I need and could sell you some of mine at my cost if you decide you need it...

Joseph's picture

Hmmmmm...

I apologize for not getting back to you sooner, but if you still have some of that Vibram sole material I'd be interested in buying it if its in my price range. Will send you an email through the "Contact" form on your site momentarily. Thank you for your feedback, it has been most helpful.

Quantized Feet's picture

Out of interest, how did you

Out of interest, how did you buy the cherry sole material from Vibram direct?

damien's picture

I realized afterwards (I

I realized afterwords (I directly messaged the previous poster) that I was mistaken, it was not the cherry material I had, the was something called elephant bark. You can, however, purchase Vibram cherry on eBay, but it is much more expensive than elephant bark.

Karsk Jagare's picture

winter

I am a wildlife biologist and I spend a decent amount of time outside in uncompromising conditions. I also strongly advocate minimalist footwear. I have used fivefingers for field shoes in the summer and I recently bought a pair of Treks. I am looking forward to running them through their paces this summer. (Fivefingers make great tracking shoes by the way. They are nearly soundless in the woods)

So far I have not found minimalist footwear that simultaneously frees my feet while protecting them from harsher conditions. To some extent perhaps you have to deal with that. But I am inclined to think that we have not yet come upon the right design.

I am looking at some pretty divergent boots. One fellow custom makes moccasins (http://www.sodhoppers.com/) I think that these have some potential.

I have also found NEOS. http://www.overshoe.com/ These are overshoes that are tough enough for wearing when snowshoeing and I have a pair of these to wear over my vivobarefoot Karibas when motorcycling. They come in an insulated version that can get you down to -20. So far these will meet many needs that I have. Worn overtop fivefingers maybe.

What I want is something that is simply made, extremely tough, allows foot sensitivity, protects against pointy things to some extent. Shoes often try to combine support and protection with insulation in their designs. Keeping the insulation fluffy on the outside makes sense to me. Something like the NEOS but with an integrated inner boot that you can also wear on their own might be interesting.

damien's picture

Thanks for the great comment!

Thanks for the great comment! I would be very much interested in hearing how the Treks work out for you.

Yes I agree, the ideal winter combination has yet to be found but I think I am getting much closer. If you haven't seen it already, make sure you check-out my post on the Forty Below overboots. I talk in there about my experiences with moccasins and NEOS overboots.

Chappie's picture

Does anybody know where I

Does anybody know where I might be able to purchase a pair of Kuuvas? Everywhere I've looked has not had them available...

Thanks,
~Chappie

Dwight's picture

Where to buy?

Where can you buy these in the US?

nick's picture

help

So ive been thinking of picking these boots for about 1yr now and decided to place my order.the only place i could find to order them from was extremeoutfitters which was fine because ive ordered my garmont combat boots from there(most confortable combat boot ive ever put on and ive had a bunch they have seen the world and are still goin).anyhow i went to place my order and they are sold out and will not restock so im now at a loss on where to find these boots at.so anyone if you can help me find a pair id appriciate it.

Kare's picture

The new Kuuva 2 will arrive

The new Kuuva 2 will arrive to the Christmas 2011. New improved sole and materials.The color is black.

You can place an order by sending an email directly at info@feelmax.com

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